Getting back to the interview John Swallow did on the Doug Wright show yesterday.
After previously asserting that “of course” he deletes his emails, Mr Swallow then said that he had emails dating back to 2010, but they were lost when changing email systems. Doug pointed out that the head IT guy in the state had said that no one else had experienced such massive data loss. Swallow said that was not true, he knew of several people who had lost stuff. He said he had never deleted a calendar item and wouldn’t even know how, yet during Tuesday’s committee hearing, Mr. Reich stated that there were only 3 people who access to Mr. Swallow’s accounts – and the other two have already given testimony that they did not delete anything.
Mr. Swallow if he would “buy this story” if he was the one doing the investigating. He did not answer the question directly, but instead said that he would not inflame “before he knew what he was talking about” – then said point blank that the investigator “doesn’t know what he’s talking about.”
Mr. Wright asks again about deleting. Swallow says he deletes “all” of his emails at the end of the calendar year, contradicting his previous statement that he “doesn’t delete” and that the data was accidentally lost. Then, he contradicts himself again and says he hasn’t deleted anything since December of 2012, the point at which he says he became aware that he “might be” under investigation. But, then just a few minutes later he said he had the right to delete but had only deleted “a few” this year. But he doesn’t know how to delete.
When Doug Wright asks when he first thought he might be under investigation, he said that even in March of this year, he thought he was a “witness” in an FBI investigation, not a “suspect” (Please ignore the reams of evidence to the contrary, everyone. Move along. This is not the truth you’re looking for.)
Here’s the real kicker. Even his wife is ready for him to resign – but he says he can’t. He simply must stay – for the good of the state. Even if it’s a hardship and sacrifice for him.
He does admit the investigative committee is likely to find something, because you “don’t just spend $3 million and find nothing.” He asserted that he will be exonerated by every investigating body – except the Utah House. He then accuses the House committee and the investigator of drumming things up because things were “going his way” and he was on his way to being exonerated. He claims that they will find him guilty just to justify spending money on the investigation. Or maybe it’s because he’s been rolling around in the mud for years??
Towards the end of the interview, Doug asks him if there is a point where critical mass is reached and enough is just enough? “Can you keep going?” he asks. “Can your family withstand this? Can your personal finances?” Swallow admits he doesn’t know, but never fear – he just raised $100 grand, largely from pay-day lenders and tax evaders that can be used to pay legal fees. He says he wants what’s good for the state and he will stay in office for the state’s benefit, even if it’s hard, because he doesn’t want anyone else to get the message that if you can generate “45 days on the front page”, you can chase someone out of office.
I wonder if he is still having “the time of his life?”